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Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

flippin — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:26:50 -0000

@Cynica: I have a confession to make: I stole your trophy wives line for my Facebook status update today. Full confession: A few times I've cherry-picked the best CP lines for this same purpose in an effort to make my Facebook friends think I'm terribly clever. Mea culpa, mea culpa, I've sinned before FSM and before you all...

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

redmanlaw — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:33:12 -0000

@ flippin - Hans Gruber wants his cut in bearer bonds. My son loves your gravatar, btw.

@ prom prom prom, prom prom Iran - Jim Ward covered that on the Stephanie Miller show this morning. He's a big conspiracy buff who will soon be opening his new website dedicated to the subject.

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

KurtGodel — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:23:09 -0000

@flippin: I think you have nailed it.

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

KurtGodel — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:21:51 -0000

I read that the Davis Polk law firm is representing pretty much everybody in this fiasco, except for Weil Gotshal who is representing Lehman in BK. No conflict, no interest, as we used to say. I wonder if they're getting paid in Euros?

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

flippin — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:07:06 -0000

It was shocking to me to listen to NPR this morning and come to the realization that the same fuckers who broke the system are going to be the ones hired by the gov't to fix it. It makes sense that Washington has neither the resources nor the time to set up their own infrastructure to oversee the disbursement of $700 kajillion or whatever the current amount is, but the affront of these asswipes to not only escape much hurt in the initial catastrophe but then profit on the recovery just makes my molars ache.

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

prommy — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:01:39 -0000

Here's the story, about the counter-insurgency battalion now training to fight americans: "http://www.armytimes.com/ne..."

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

prommy — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:42:30 -0000

Dodd and a few others seem appropriately horrified by the bailout plan. Oh, and the Army Times reports that an active combat brigade has been ordered into duty inside the US for the first time since time imemorial, and is now training in crowd-control and non-lethal force. You know, in time for the elections, or the not elections, or whatever will be.

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

KurtGodel — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:16:06 -0000

The NYT is liveblogging the Senate Banking Committee hearing, featuring a bunch of old men who don't have a fucking clue asking questions to two guys who say the world will end unless they get what they want.

Speaking of which, why isn't Obama running Keating 5 ads?

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

CheapBoy — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:13:53 -0000

Well I suppose the trader has a point. Ya can't blame a pig for acting like a pig.

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

CheapBoy — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 04:00:15 -0000

Tommcatt has it right. It would be cheaper to prop up the borrowers, rather than the lenders. And well unfortuneatly that won't happen, because that would humanise the crisis and make it 'realer'. Think flagged draped coffins and body-counts.

But something that really got my goat today was some trader on Wall Street saying this wasn't the "Free Market's" fault, it was the Government via Greenspan, Bernanke and Paulson for having too much regulation.

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

Cynica — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:34:01 -0000

@OA, SFL: Haven't you heard? It's all the fault of the bad loans they made to minorities (some moron on Faux said that. really.) and other deadbeats that caused this problem. And now those poor CEOs can't buy that 16th house in Hawaii to make the 25 yr old trophy wife happy. Have a little compassion. Won't someone think of the trophy wives?

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

Original Andrew — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:39:00 -0000

@ San Fran Lefty,

It’s heartbreaking, isn’t it? There are people in this nation who are truly suffering, and we have these investment/bank/insurance CEOs acting like the villains in an Austin Powers movie.

“Gentlemen. Unless you meet all of our demands, we will crash the world economy. The only way to avoid this catastrophe is to pay us $700 BILLION DOLLARS!!1! BOOOHOOOWAAAHHAAAHHA!”(laughs uncontrollably…falls out of chair)

We got the new issues of Fortune and Conde Nast Portfolio at work today, which breathlessly ask if the CEOs, led by Hank Paulson CEO Goldman Sachs 1999—2006, who got us into our financial apocalypse can save us? Should I read the articles? Do you think their answer will be yes? Oh sure, that seems perfectly reasonable.

Needless to say, I’m sure they’ll also be keeping the billions in salaries and bonuses that shareholders have paid them. That’s probs why we haven’t seen more skyscraper swan-diving over the last week.

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

redmanlaw — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:12:14 -0000

If you were interested in in knowing where Overlord Hunter is as, like other CPers, he's at his other job.

http://deadspin.com/5053252...

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

redmanlaw — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:08:14 -0000

Deth to Clinic Blockers

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

Cynica — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:37:19 -0000

Here in my small town there are 3 or 4 of those women who stand on either side of the main road thru town to the coast with "Abortion Kills Babies" and "Consider Adoption" signs. A few days ago, Mr Cyn saw that they'd been joined by a young woman holding an "Abortion is an Option sign." I must get to Staples to purchase my poster board and magic markers so we can have a "sign off."

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

SanFranLefty — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:13:58 -0000

@RML: You mean small town mean-spirited holier than thou church lady like the ones who stand outside women's health clinics and scream "whore" at the women coming in for a pap smear, supply of pills, HIV test, and/or abortion?
Meet Sarah Palin, abortion clinic protester. The fundies are going to lurv her even more now.
http://www.dailykos.com/sto...

http://www.salon.com/news/f...

/cues up Everlast's "What it's Like"
"Mary got pregnant from a kid named Tom who said he was in love
He said don't worry about a thing baby doll I'm the man you've been dreamin' of
But three months later he said he won't date her or return her call
And she sweared god damn if I find that man I'm cuttin' off his balls
And then she heads for the clinic and she gets some static walkin' through the doors
They call her a killer, and they call her a sinner, and they call her a whore
God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes
'Cause then you really might know what it's like to have to choose
Then you really might know what it's like."

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

JNOV — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:07:34 -0000

I <3 Mustaine.

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

Tommmcatt_Interrupted — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:04:39 -0000

@RML

Yah, the polls look good overall right now, so I'll go back to pretending they actually matter for a while.

How does one get kicked out of a metal band for excessive drug and alcohol use? That's like being kicked out of a punk band for being too ugly...

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

redmanlaw — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:41:42 -0000

New Mexicans hate Sarah Palin.

"Sarah Palin is not playing well with New Mexico voters. 46% say her selection made them less likely to vote for John McCain, compared to 38% who say it made them more likely to do so. Among independents her disapproval rating is 47%, and Obama has a 51-35 advantage with that group." - politicalwire.com

We really hate the holier than thou, small town church lady, feigned-integrity-having political hack here. People know her type. Friend of the priest, pious as all get out but emotionally abuses her kids while her corrupt cop or politician husband steals everyone blind and fixes stuff from traffic tickets to drug dealing for his friends and family. And her daughter is a single mom by some hoodlum.

@Dorito Ramone - I heart the new Metallica, btw, but Re-load and S & M are about the only things by them I really don't care for. Can't want to check the mailbox after work for my Rolling Stone. Thrash lives. Dave Mustaine must be ready to shoot himself over how well they're doing these days (Dude was kicked out of Metallica for excessive drug and alcohol use [for reals]; went on to found Megadeth, who have a new anthology out now or coming soon).

New poll has The Eagle up by at least 11 here. Can I get a "hell yeah?" Jamie and Lefty will probably get sent to Colorado for GOTV. Richardson was there over the weekend. Maybe I'll go up for GOTV in Durango/Ute reservations and hit the San Juan river on the way back home

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

SanFranLefty — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:54:59 -0000

@ OA, TommCatt:
Yes, we are seeing the true face of capitalism with the bailout. Meanwhile my client who is struggling to raise 3 kids on her $1000/month income from fast food restaurants is vilified by our society and the GOP as living a taxpayer-subsidized lifestyle because she gets $350/mo. in food stamps.
STABBY STABBY STABBY
@TonyRamoneNabisco: Dude, I keep telling everyone to rent "Idiocracy." It's coming true.

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

TonyRamone — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:40:37 -0000

Anyone read Matt Taibbi's piece in the latest RS, the one with Metallica on the cover? He really saved up his stash of invective for the Talibunny, but really nails the nut of the problem: we are a nation that only puts down its bag of Family Sized Doritos long enough to change the channel.

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

redmanlaw — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:28:30 -0000

And speaking of backward . . .

"A local Republican Party leader in New Mexico has set off a firestorm by suggesting in an interview that Hispanics are racists who won't vote for a black candidate."

http://rawstory.com/news/20...

The Baca/C'de Baca (from "cabeza de baca" or "head of the cow") is a very prominent NM Hispanic family that goes back here to the 1600s. Note the reference to the Spanish coming here as "conquerors". Our local media has yet to hop on it.

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

Tommmcatt_Interrupted — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:26:47 -0000

Ah, Prom, as usual you are a genius, but you forget that this economy is for the rich, not the rest of us. Things will be clearer when we all have to move into cardboard boxes later this year.

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

Original Andrew — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:21:14 -0000

@ prommy,

Sorry, but this bailout is exclusively for the wealthy aka The People Who Matter.

Perhaps for the first time in our lives, we're seeing the true face of American government and "capitalism," without any of the usual feel-good lies.

Re: Comrade Can You Spare $2 Trillion?

Emmanuel Nerdstein — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:37:16 -0000

Prom: Sure, that'd work better, but it'd also be hell itself to administer. Who wants to work, when we can just throw money at the problem?