Cynics Party: CP Commenter Strike Enters Second Day
SanFranLefty
· 1 year ago
@nojo: This is not change I can believe in. Disqus is slower and you can't link replies. But at the end of the day, whatever it takes for you to gerry-rig this hooptie. Is Wordpress punishing us for not clicking on the "Is Sarah Palin the Messiah" adbots on the side?
P.S. I think the avatars automatically linked to gravatar. I didn't do anything on my side to make Nancy P appear.
JNOV
· 1 year ago
@baked: are you trying to understand his cheating? I agree that on ave men and women are wired differently, but it's akin to the whole nurture/nature debate that seems to have been settled by saying we're a product of both. Just because someone is hardwired or predisposed to behave a certain way doesn't give them carte blanche to behave badly. It might explain their actions to a certain degree, but it doesn't excuse them. So, men may be biologically predisposed to cheat, but they are also capable of deciding if they want to enter a monogamous relationship in the first place.
If you're talking about forgiveness, I've heard it's a great thing to forgive even if the wrongdoer doesn't apologize. Personally, I'm not able to forgive people who don't acknowledge the error of their ways. And it's not good for me. But like I said, it's supposed to work wonders if you are able to forgive those who fucked you over.
If you're asking if you should stay with him, I have no answer. This is your call, your life, your special set of circumstances. Yeah. Life. Yay.
Tommmcatt_Interrupted
· 1 year ago
@Jnov,@Baked
Biology be dammed. Men are not monkeys. I've passed up plenty of tail to be faithful to the Mr., and trust me, about 70 percent of my day is spent lusting after something small, muscular, warm and tight. If I can control my enormous, ape-like libido then other guys can as well.
Forgive when you are able - mostly because it will take a lot of the pressure out of the "getting over it" part for you and thus will hurt a little less- but never, ever forget. I've been in all kinds of relationships, both open, and closed and it's my experience that somebody that will betray the basic agreements of a relationship never really were able constitutionally to adhere to them in the first place.
Never let a scorpion sting you twice. I can't council you as to getting back with this person, if that is even in question,but I can tell you that if you do, you will be betrayed again. Maybe not in a sexual way, but frankly, either a person has honor or does not, and on some level you will get burnt on the fundamentals. People that cheat do so because they are selfish and dishonorable, and at 25 or 35 or 55 if they have not developed the ability to honor their commitments will never do so. This is probably why you may be having trouble understanding the cheating: You honor your commitments, and cannot conceive of something that would keep you from doing that.
chicagobureau
· 1 year ago
@nojo: I do not see these ratings of which you speak. But us regulars know that each of us should have seven diamonds next to our names, for we know that we are that quality in our posting skills. So no need to advertise it.
@jaime sommers: Forgot for the moment that you are an Astros fan. I could provide you with a nice politician apology, but I am real busy right now and thus cannot string together the requisite amount of weasel-words and thus will simply and humbly apologize for that remark.
(And, yes -- Cubbies / Dodgers would be good. I think we can safely slot them in at this point (they get three against Pittsburgh, three against Sandy Eggo, and six against the Giants, while Arizona has three against the Giants, six against Colorado, and four against St. Louis with 4.5 games to make up), and it would be a Divisional Series -- which the Cubs have been known to inexplicably blow.)
(Also: No D-backs in the playoffs, with the White Sox and Cubs, in all likelihood, in the playoffs? Take that, Geezer.)
Tommmcatt_Interrupted
· 1 year ago
@TonyRamone
Ah, how I love that McCain. And by "Love" I mean "Lust After" and by "McCain" I mean "Hot, Hot B.D. Wong". If I may, please (and by "If I may, please" I mean "Since you don't get a say in it anyway"), I will go back over all the comments I have made on this site when the data base is repaired (by which, of course, I mean that I will make Nojo do it) and explain ("completely redefine") anything that may have made me look stupid or like McCain ("senile").
English is fun, particularly when you get to go back and change the meaning of words to suit your purpose.
Power to the Fundamentals("workers")!
Original Andrew
· 1 year ago
OMG, fellow Cynics, I go away for a week and look what I’ve missed! My apologies for being out of the loop as I haven’t had a chance to read previous posts/comments.
In my defense:
1) I work for a (cough) brokerage firm—though one that hasn’t been directly affected at all by what’s going on, thank the FSM—and we’ve been a little, uh, busy.
2) My boss up and went to South Africa for three weeks leaving me a six-mile-looooonnnngg laundry list of “honey do” chores.
3) I’m re-roofing and painting my house in preparation for Seattle’s upcoming monsoon season.
And
d) I’ve been paralyzed with fear and anger whenever I read the political news about how Grampy Psychogeezer and that horrifying, Caribou-murdering wingnut lady are gonna make sure we’re all nuked over and over and over again until Jayzus comes back forever and ever and most Americans are sucking down that shit sandwich and begging for more.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit horse-tranqulizers. How’ve you been?
prommy
· 1 year ago
Whats with the fucking ratings? I assune everyone gives themselves 2 points and thats why everyone has 2? Or do we not admit that?
nojo
· 1 year ago
@prommy: I have no clue about the ratings, and if I could remove them from sight, I would.
No news from the server geeks, although They've Been Notified. Greg and I tried installing a nifty WordPress plug-in that would allow me to Fix the Damn Database Indexes myself (I'm presuming that's where the problem is), but it wouldn't load. (I don't have Deep Geek server access, so I'm analyzing this through gauze.)
It seems the Will of the Room is to switch the comments back to tried and (mostly) true, presuming we can get the functionality restored. So I'll hold off posting Stupid Disqus Tricks for now.
fried
· 1 year ago
tony, no doubt. my cats are still so traumatized, they have attached themselves to me, literally. i have to wear padding in this heat, with attached animals while i scrape mold. still waiting for your weigh in on my email poll yesterday re Xmr, asshole.
or we can discuss cheating right here. prommy once said, "can't a successful guy get a little strange once in a while without jeopardizing a solid long term commitment, like the french?" and pedo shed light when he added with two men, indiscretions are more understood and forgivable. thoughts?
Nerdly McNerderson
· 1 year ago
prommy: I think ranking yourself is a little bit like masturbating. We all do it, but no one really wants to talk about it.
Original Andrew
· 1 year ago
@ rptrcub,
I don't know about the rest of America, but my first homoseckshul explosion was caused by a Scott Bakula shirtless scene on Quantum Leap..
rptrcub
· 1 year ago
Jonathan Frakes, 1988.
Tommmcatt_Interrupted
· 1 year ago
@rptrcub
hehehe...hot Trek Sex. I was more of a Wesley Crusher man myself....
fried
· 1 year ago
kurt, mine too! and if she keeps it for 10 years, the tuition will pay for itself!
catt, i'm hanging on by my broken finger nails, but someone said, 'it's getting better all the time'. thanks sweetie.
flippen, i sent nojo pics of the animals to die for. hope he posts them
nojo
· 1 year ago
And now that I'm awake...
Presuming we do get the old comments working again, any preferences? Disqus has some goodies that WordPress comments don't -- but I don't see a way to link replies like we enjoy. (And I'm amazed that everyone got their avatars up so quickly.)
rptrcub
· 1 year ago
It happened automatically for me. As far as I know, the only place I've used Disqus is here, though the avatar pic is registered with Gravatar -- they might have some kind of weird funky HTML sex to make that happen.
stemper
· 1 year ago
That's a snake? I thought it was a tyre wrench.
Tommmcatt_Interrupted
· 1 year ago
@Nojo
I like the rating thing, but only because I am a secret fascist. Also the little comment window thingie that pops up when you hold the cursor over someone's screenname.
Otherwise it is slow and poopy.
rptrcub
· 1 year ago
@'Catt: t's totally like a popularity contest.
@SFL: I think we should chip in for the electronic equivalent of duct tape. Reminds me of the days when I drove an avocado green 1979 Chevrolet Caprice: the original Powered by Hope (TM). Hope that I would be able to make it home. 10 mpg, but gas was like .79/gallon or something.
@Fried: hey, my Bryn Mawr grad daughter GOT A JOB!!
nojo
· 1 year ago
So while we're waiting to fix the database, let's give Disqus a spin...
nojo
· 1 year ago
And let's try a reply...
nojo
· 1 year ago
What? No @ signs?
On the other hand, you get those spy tools everyone's been wanting. And I can probably fix the "Recent Comments" list...
So, cast yer votes, folks. Right now this is all we got, but presumably I'll be able to revive the old database sooner or later. Given a choice, which way to go?
nojo
· 1 year ago
Okay, I've turned off the registration requirement for the moment. Everybody, pretend you're somebody else!
TheTalibunny
· 1 year ago
Heretics! I saw what you wrote about me! Yes, I am God's fucking Grandmama and I am not going to let you forget it when the Geez keels the fuck over and I take fucking control!
Look Dave, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.
fried
· 1 year ago
haven't i been through ENOUGH this week!
rptrcub
· 1 year ago
We will move on. We will comment on the beaches. We will comment in the streets. And we shall never surrender. Unless we get the Ark running. Then we'll abandon ship.
Trotsky
· 1 year ago
My interview with Abbott Labs gets cancelled when they suddenly lay off 1000+ people. My interview with HP gets cancelled when they announce 23000+ will get the axe. Now this. I have the death touch. I think I'll clear away all the crap from that planet there so I can start it over again.
rptrcub
· 1 year ago
We are the survivors of a nuclear strike upon the database by Talibunny. It's time for massive retaliation. Nuke Wasilia.
fried
· 1 year ago
trotsky, i see your death touch and raise you the salaries of oil execs.
fried
· 1 year ago
how about pics? i got rature morons at masada, riding a camel looking for ARK oil, and my re-united critters that will make everyone say, awwwwwww. (i'll keep the island devastation shots til everyone settles down)
LuxMentis
· 1 year ago
Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do. I'm half crazy all for the love of you. It won't be a stylish marriage, I can't afford a carriage. But you'll look sweet upon the seat of a bicycle built for two.
redmanlaw
· 1 year ago
I went to chaoticmegan and the original HFA base in the jungle looking for you guys, ended up at deadspin on the Monday night football live blog.
Prommie
· 1 year ago
WTF? Help, where's the instructions?
Prommie
· 1 year ago
I hate change. I can't even cope with routine. Get off my lawn, you kids. I am buying a motorcycle. David Foster AWallace went and killed himself, he was 46, too, I hate the world. Fuck everything.
redmanlaw
· 1 year ago
and I didn't get a turkey this weekend
fried
· 1 year ago
reds, your avatar looks like wilson from castaway. stop your whining, anyone else be washing their hair in the ocean today??
fried
· 1 year ago
i didn't mean your whining reds, meant everyone.
prommy, take a pill. now.
rptrcub
· 1 year ago
Nojo, I salute your willingness to get this working again.
In other news, Talibunny is for smaller government, unless it comes to an Alaskan creamery (and this is coming from the Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal). I leave the floor open for double entendres.
HAL 9000 (MC)
· 1 year ago
Talibunny really enjoyed their 8 inch double dip cone.
chicagobureau
· 1 year ago
This would lead to another meltdown of the system. We don't want to fry two commenting platforms in the space of two days. This would make the Houston Astros feel even worse about getting one hit in two games.
By the way: Geezer, fundamentals, strong. Like wow. Pick -- six for Black Eagle (especially considering the new ad up this morning).
Tommmcatt_Interrupted
· 1 year ago
@Rptrcub
Yah, I second that. Nojo is God, the end, KTHXBYE!
fried
· 1 year ago
panic on wall street.
dad just told me people are selling out like the bank scene in 'it's a wonderful life'
SanFranLefty
· 1 year ago
Hey there buffalo girls won't you come out tonight, won't you come out tonight...
love that movie.
oh except for evil Mr. Potter the banker.
HAL 9000 (MC)
· 1 year ago
Although I suspect that it won't end as well as the Frank Capra classic.
In a very small way it does feel good to see the sharks suddenly realize they're chum, too. I won't be screaming this from rooftop to rooftop though because the entire world is going to be taking a bite of this shit sandwich.
SanFranLefty
· 1 year ago
I blame Wall Street
flippin
· 1 year ago
Baked, def share the furbabies reunited pics asap! We need all the warm fuzzies we can get in this dark and dangerous place, where our CP comments are just as fragile as our mortgages/401Ks.
rptrcub
· 1 year ago
I once thought that being forced into paying into the teacher's pension plan was horrible because I couldn't take the money my employer paid to the plan with me to another job. In Georgia, it's fairly stable.
Now, I'll stay chained to the state as long as I can to reach the 10-year vestment mark so I'll at least have a few hundred bucks to buy pork & beans when I'm 64. Or 72. Or 80.
JNOV
· 1 year ago
I'll be eating cat food.
JNOV
· 1 year ago
I'm afraid I might break this.
JNOV
· 1 year ago
Sorry -- my name is really "Domo-KuN." Damned anime.
Kurt Godel
· 1 year ago
Hey Chicago Bureau: Cubbies vs. Dodgers in the playoffs? Wouldn't that be fun?
Prommie
· 1 year ago
Ken-L-Ration is the only USDA inspected dog food, so if you ever find you need to economize, thats the one thats recomended.
Target is now selling Domo-Kuns. Dammit, I was once so hip and ahead of the curve, but now I have been mass-marketed.
JNOV
· 1 year ago
@Promnight -- I had no idea who Domo-Kun is, but my kid saw your avatar and was pleased. Are you holding a snake or a stick?
They still make Ken-L-Ration?
LuxMentis
· 1 year ago
Thanks for the image...just rewatched 2001 while cataloguing books inscribed by Crispin Glover (don't ask). While it does not hold a candle to the book, it is just a great flick...that scene, Hal singing while his brain is gutted, is an all time favorite.
SanFranLefty
· 1 year ago
@Kurt: Dodger, es tu? No tienes una gravatar. @Nojo: Disqus is a lot slower. And I may have accidentally "rated" your comment when I was trying to hit reply @Trotsky Ewalda: Good to see you, sorry about the interviews. Gmail me, seriously. @Lux: My favorite antiquarian book dealer! Hey you!
Tommmcatt_Interrupted
· 1 year ago
Well, hmmm, at least we're all still here. God, I missed you guys. IT WAS A WHOLE 24 FUCKING HOURS!
I need a hug.
Tommmcatt_Interrupted
· 1 year ago
Ooh, rate me rate me! Evaluate and rank me! I'm good, good, good and oh so smart!
SanFranLefty
· 1 year ago
While not talking about the shitstorm on Wall Street, the tee vee is reporting that a McCain campaign spokesman said that McCain was the reason that the Blackberry exists. Queries to all: 1) Is this more reason not to vote for him because so many people are now chained to Crackberries? 2) If Barack Obama is being ageist and doesn't honor veterans when he says that the broken-armed Psychogeezer doesn't use email, how does PG invent the Crackberry when the little keys are so much smaller and closer together? 3) is this the Democrats' "Al Gore invented the Internet" retribution moment? Pounce, Dems, pounce!!
RomeGirl
· 1 year ago
Wait, what? What's happening? What did I miss? What's going on? I'm late for Champagne night. Must go. But I'm all confused. Are we striking something? is Jason involved? You didn't boot Megan, did you? WHAT'S GOING ON.
Oh, wait, I have to register? Oh for fucksake. Will try this and then do the register thing later.
Running Nerd
· 1 year ago
Thanks for bringing back some comments, Nojo.
likewow
· 1 year ago
It ate my comment - '502 Bad Gateway'
That's it.
THE COMMENTS FUCKING SUCK!
THE COMMENTS FUCKING SUCK!
THE COMMENTS FUCKING SUCK!
THE COMMENTS FUCKING SUCK!
THE COMMENTS FUCKING SUCK!
THE COMMENTS FUCKING SUCK!
JNOV
· 1 year ago
@RomeGirl: The monster (AKA Domo-Kun) ate ALL our comments. *poof*
TonyRamone
· 1 year ago
This.is.more.than.my.brain.on.work.can.handle
(but I always hated"Nabisco"...thanks a lot Brand W)
fried
· 1 year ago
likewow, just yours suck, just yours.
TonyRamone
· 1 year ago
Oh but yeah, thanks for the commenting fuction, Nojo. Let us know if we should pass the hat around.
Jamie Sommers
· 1 year ago
This would make the Houston Astros feel even worse about getting one hit in two games.
Fuck you. Love, Jamie
BRB
· 1 year ago
Yay! I moved to Chicago and now I get to read Charles Krauthammer's churlish stupidity first-hand!
@TonyRamone: Wait. What? You hate the name or the commenter? Cuz I love me some Nabeeesko, but if you're Nabisco, and you're changing your name, okay. And I'm going to take a picture of Franklin's grave tomorrow (I think I know where it is), and I'll post it.
TonyRamone
· 1 year ago
No, I'm Nabisco and it is only your luv jnov that keeps me afloat. Somehow in the early Wonkette hamsters-approve-comments stage, I tried too many names and the only one that stuck was Nabisco. I don't seem to be able to log in as such, however. In the meanwhile, the guy wearing the barrel and suspenders answers to TonyRamone.
@SFL: yes, it's me, Dodgerblue, with a 4 1/2 game lead with 12 to go. I was reading a book recently about Godel and Turing and Kurt's name just came to mind. A brilliant guy, but a real wacko. He basically starved himself to death because he was afraid of poisoned food. I studied his famous incompleteness proof when I was an undergrad, eons ago.
redmanlaw
· 1 year ago
@ Kurt - I thought that was Nightcrawler's name in the X-Men movie.
redmanlaw
· 1 year ago
At least we haz comments.
So were the hamsters let go in the Wall Street blood bath? I thought I saw some members of order rodenta on CNN yesterday wearing sweatshirts with the names of Eastern colleges carrying little boxes of stuff out of their work places.
Kurt Godel
· 1 year ago
I have a "Bryn Mawr Dad" sweatshirt. Does that count?
JNOV
· 1 year ago
Yes, thank you, nojo! Very much!
Prommie
· 1 year ago
Its a snake, ain't that cool? You gotta go to youtube and find the cartoons, Domo lives iunderground with a wise old rabbit who tries to teach him. Domo is a turd, and he farts when he is nervous.
BRB
· 1 year ago
Oh, and since we're doing this "CP - on the rocks!" pseudocommenting thing, I'll just take this opportunity to say that everyone should read wonderful novelist (and yes, internet buddy of mine) Alexander Chee's recent election-oriented screed, which I found quite satisfying:
@ SFL - I bet you say that to all the antiquarian booksellers.
Will be back in SF in Feb. of 2009 for the ABAA fair. Passes will be forthcoming.
Cynica
· 1 year ago
@LuxMentis, SFL: I'm going to work for an antiquarian bookseller in Oregon, so maybe I'll get to come to SF too!
LuxMentis
· 1 year ago
There are some good folk out that way. I'll be in Seattle next month, if you make it up there, stop by.
Lord von Nerdenstein
· 1 year ago
Ooh, where in Seattle?
LuxMentis
· 1 year ago
Seattle Center Exib. Hall, Oct. 11-12. Not certain if this allows links, if not, google "seattle book fair" and it will be the first entry. Love this show. Good town, good coffee and TopPot. http://www.seattlebookfair.com/
@IanJ. Posts to you always distract...as my name is Ian Jonas...
Darth Nerd
· 1 year ago
@LuxMentis: duly noted, both name and location. That is pretty funny about the name. I seem to be having fun with the ability to change my name at will here, but I'm sure I'll tire of it in a day or so. I doubt I'll be able to get to the book show, that's right after my play opens, and I'm either going to be sleeping or stagemanaging.
LuxMentis
· 1 year ago
@ Nerd In All Forms - email me off the list and I'll arrange for a pass (or two) (can be found, the email that is, under the profile).
fried
· 1 year ago
i knew that was you dodge. hey! i was a bryn mawr mom! (jnov too!) why didn't we get a sweatshirt!
mellbell
· 1 year ago
Dodger, Baked, JNOV: What class years? (Probably didn't know them, but they might have been friends of friends or some such.)
fried
· 1 year ago
CATT, HUG HUG HUG xoxo!
TonyRamone
· 1 year ago
OBTW, my kitty climbed into the bathtub when I was washing my daughter last night. I think he's showing solidarity with the island katz.
Tommmcatt_Interrupted
· 1 year ago
@Fried
Awwww, thanks. How are you anyways, sweetheart?
JNOV
· 1 year ago
@nojo: my avatar generated itself -- I did nothing. I am logged onto gmail, and my gravatar is connected to that somehow?
BRB
· 1 year ago
@ Nojo:
I like the old system better. I am a crotchety conservative in all ways (except politically).
There was always something about Los Lonely Boys that I didn't like. Now I know.
I've heard of "homosexual menace," but a "homosexual explosion?" Is al-Gayda attacking America now?
Tommmcatt_Interrupted
· 1 year ago
@rptrcub
I'll show you a homosexual explosion....
(sorry, couldn't resist!)
KurtGodel
· 1 year ago
avatars of the world, unite!
Tommmcatt_Interrupted
· 1 year ago
@Fried
Let me be perfectly clear about the cheating thing: If Mr. 'Catt (and by that I mean me OR my partner) was going to cheat, he had better pack his stuff up and move out first, because if he didn't he would come home to a pile of it in the front yard, burning.
Tommmcatt_Interrupted
· 1 year ago
@Origional Andrew
...Sam Jones in Playgirl circa 1981.
Original Andrew
· 1 year ago
@ fried,
In our society it's understood that men are the sexual hunters and women control the sex supply--so when you put two dudes together--there's no one to slam on the brakes. This doesn't apply to everyone, of course, and the key is clear, mutually agreed upon ground-rules if a couple wants to open the relationship. Gay men are in non-traditional relationships anyway, which I'd say makes us more open to considering other arrangements.
nojo
· 1 year ago
baked/fried/toasted/stoned/highasafuckingkite: I haven't seen any photos, but I don't receive the "tips" email. Did you send them to nojo@cp?
Original Andrew
· 1 year ago
@ Tommmcatt,
Ahhhhh... Flash Gordon...mmmmmmmm...
Tommmcatt_Interrupted
· 1 year ago
@ OA
Yah, totally a WGIWF.
prommy
· 1 year ago
Fried, there is only one possible answer: Hoggamous, higgamous, men are polygamous, higgamous hoggamous, women, monogamous. I think that was Thurber or someone like that.
Dudes are always ready for some emotionless orgasming. Chicks have more invested in the possibility of pregnancy, so they are the gate keepers. If chicks had the same sexuality as dudes, then there'd be glory holes in every bar, not just gay bars. There'd be rest stop hetero-jungles, hell, the whole world would be a larry craig stall.
Now am I spouting sexist cliches? I have no idea whats PC anymore, I thought this was all simple evolutionary behaviorism or whatever they call it, the male wants to spread his seed, a win win for him would be to cuckold some other dude and get him to raise his kid. Chicks, on the other hand, don't want their dude running off, so they tend to view this behavior with a less than celebratory attitude.
On the other hand, if a chick has the skills, there's a lot to be said for receiving gifts from a whole harem of men, instead of just one, so chicks have some evolutionary motivation to stray as well.
In the end, fidelity is as often a product of lack of opportunity, and lack of boldness, as it is a product of sheer shimmering virtue. Thats why the law has a formal, recognized evidentiary presumption, that if a chick and a dude have inclination, and opportunity, they will fuck. Period. Its presumed.
Thank God for me I am homely and timid, cause there ain't all that much virtue in the world.
Cynica
· 1 year ago
OMFG, thank FSM we're all back together again. It was horrible, horrible... I need a hug too, Tommcatt, And pix of baked's furbabies.
fried
· 1 year ago
nojo, i sent them to tips at cynicsparty. and i'm drinking rum right out of the bottle , how'd ya know?
tell me WHERE to send them!
fried
· 1 year ago
HUGS cyn! wait til you see these pics...you'll all melt.
OA, all makes sense, except one thing. i don't consider homosexual relationships as 'non traditional'
Original Andrew
· 1 year ago
Oh wow, are the "nesting comments" back?
@ fried,
Please understand that I'm not advocating one partner stepping out without the other's knowledge. But if this does happen, one should evaluate the history with your partner and weigh whether a break-up makes sense emotionally and financially. Long term relationships are complicated, esp when you have so much history with the other person.
SanFranLefty
· 1 year ago
@Trotsky/Ewalda: Speaking of HP, did ya hear that Carly "McCain is pro-choice" Fiorina told a radio station that she thinks that Sarah Palin doesn't have enough experience to run a company like H-P?
Carly Fiorina can't run a major corporation either.
JNOV
· 1 year ago
@nojo: If we're stuck with this disqus for a while, and you want us to test drive it anyway, could you tell us what's under the hood? Can I post pictures now? Oh, and can I get an edit button?
fried
· 1 year ago
nojo, just sent them to nojo at cynicsparty.com is that it? let me know..........
nojo
· 1 year ago
@baked: JEEZUS, those are cute. I'm amidst a lot of clutter from the Paying Customers right now, but I'll get those posted later.
flippin
· 1 year ago
Noooo, drop everything and share them, Nojo....please?
flippin
· 1 year ago
@Cynica: I know, it was a dark and lonely day yesterday, wasn't it?
@OA and Prom: This is the reasoning I've always assumed explains why a male gay relationship was more likely to be open. I've heard before that lesbian relationships are less likely than either male gay or hetero couples to involve on-the-side action, which I'm too lazy to go factcheck at the mo but would reinforce that fact that it's much more a gender thing than an orientation thing. It's funny how this affects women now, at least from my perspective with my girlfriends. It seems like we are much less worried about the gatekeeper role in noncommittal situations and are as likely as most men to enjoy one night stands or fuckbuddies without guilt or hangups. But I think most women I know still want and expect sexual exclusivity to go hand-in-hand with emotional exclusivity, so if you're involved you're faithful.
Cynica
· 1 year ago
Thanks for the virtual hugs....I've been in Oklahoma surrounded by McCain signs and Bush visits and fundies. Sitting in the airport bar waiting to fly back to Orygun and Mr Cyn and the bebes. Just staring out the window marvelling at the flatness and treelessness, restraining myself from checking the dwindling balance in my brokerage account. Can't wait to get back to the mountains and fir trees and at least the chance of having my vote in a presidential election count for once.
Original Andrew
· 1 year ago
@ SFL,
It's beyond karazee, isn't it?
At this point, McPain could go on TeeVee and blubber that "I soweetoddid," and he'd be a national hero. "He's just like me!" squeal the undecideds.
Who cares that his chief cheerleader sez he and his runningmate aren't qualified to run a company, or are totally incompetent for that matter?
Expect McPain/Failin poll numbers to shoot through the roof in 5... 4... 3... 2...
fried
· 1 year ago
jnov, you know how much i love you, but i find it astounding you have ever used the edit button!
Cynica
· 1 year ago
@JNOV: I haz edit button between reply and reblog (whatever that means, at least for a little while after I post. @nojo, fried: I have to board now but will check for kitteh pix from SLC.
JNOV
· 1 year ago
@Cynica: Thanks! I went and registered, and I see those buttons now. Gonna try the reblog button next. Oh, and it will let you post a blank comment.
I think the reblog button lets you post your comment on another blog -- like cross posting on different blogs maybe?
Original Andrew
· 1 year ago
@ flippin,
It's true. Men are just not wired for monogamy. I think a lot of cultures--like those Hell-bound Europeans--have a different perspective and just expect there to be indiscretions over the years.
JNOV
· 1 year ago
@fried: I'd be a nervous wreck without the edit button. I can't spell for shit, and I'm always second guessing myself.
TonyRamone
· 1 year ago
Bake-O, would you believe me if I say that I agree with Prommy and yet believe that we are able to overcome our bilogical urges? Or that I've never been unfaithful? Or that the missus basically told me, when we we'd, that sure I could "play around". But she'd kill me . All true.
fried
· 1 year ago
my pendulum is swinging wide on this matter of mr. baked's easily dropping trou because we are geographically separated for so long. he thinks it's no big deal under the circumstances, and thinks he's coming home. jury will be out a while on this one. a lot to consider. going out to forage for food. y'all better be here when i get back.
Sir Nerds-A-Lot
· 1 year ago
baked, I'll just put in my vote for "cheating's bad" and insert that I've never done it. It helps a lot that the opportunity has never presented itself (for the aforementioned biological reasons), but it would tear my brain in half if I actually gave in and did it. I don't think I could live with it. I don't really understand how other people can do it and be so casual about it.
It probably also helps that in my first real relationship, I was cheated on within a few months, which left me deeply traumatized for weeks (wandering the streets of Edinburgh, crying-type traumatized), and probably permanently damaged that relationship (and potentially my ability to have a good relationship again, but let's not read too much into it here).
TonyRamone
· 1 year ago
Yah, my first true lurv cheated on me, scarring me at the time but probably saved quite a few of the subsequent relationships, including the current long-time one. Lusting great, cheating bad (see TommTommClub above).
nojo
· 1 year ago
We have Puppy Porn. I repeat, WE HAVE PUPPY PORN.
Nerdlinger
· 1 year ago
Er. To clarify on my previous statement: While in a relationship, I've never been presented with a real opportunity to cheat (as in, someone coming on to me). I don't know how I'd weather such a test, particularly if the person were persistent or aggressive, but if I gave in, it would be a Bad Thing for my brain, and I doubt I could maintain either relationship.
I have come very close to being the third party in a cheating situation, although not because I wanted to be -- in both cases, the other person approached me, and in both cases I felt like crap about it (although no actual intercourse took place). To me, emotional cheating is worse than physical cheating.
Original Andrew
· 1 year ago
@ IanJ,
I'm really sorry that you went through that betrayal.
To answer your question, some people see sex as integral to an exclusive love/commitment/relationship paradigm, while others see it as simply recreation. I was very much of the love/commitment/relationship mindset until my first serious boyfriend kinda had it off with just about everyone (guys and gals) in our circle of acquaintances in college, which basically forced me to re-examine my feelings on the issue.
Original Andrew
· 1 year ago
@ Tommmcatt,
Please tell me that these were Wesley Crusher pimp-slapping fantasies.
Tommmcatt_Interrupted
· 1 year ago
@OA
Well, there was spanking involved....
rptrcub
· 1 year ago
He's actually got a beard, now, so.... yeah....
llyn
· 1 year ago
Thanks for the link was directed to BRB for the link to Alexander Chee's blog re Republicans trashing the Constitution.
Jamie Sommers
· 1 year ago
@chibureau
Accepted, my dear. And in the interests of time, I will spare you my 1000 word essay on the FUBAR that was the decision to play those games in Milwaukee.
MILWAUKEE!!!!!!!!!!!
/deep cleansing breaths
Baron von Nerdhofen
· 1 year ago
@OA: Thanks, I appreciate that. I hated going through it, but perhaps it put me in a better place. Interesting side note: she ended up marrying the guy she cheated with, many years later.
I guess I see physical and emotional cheating as different things, although they're both bad in my book. I agree with the general sentiment that breaking the rules of the relationship is the real problem -- cheating can only be defined within the context of the relationship and its expectations.
KurtGodel
· 1 year ago
@ melbell: '06 for my daughter Natasha.
BTW I just saw that the feds are bailing out AIG. WTF?
@Tommcatt re honor/fidelity: absolutely. Abso-fucking-lutely. Always amazed at women who married the guy who cheated on his wife with them and then they are stunned when he cheats on them. A cheater is a cheater is a cheater. "We were far apart"? Please.
lonbordin
· 1 year ago
Personal responsability and fiscal responsibility have been left on the curb will someone please pick them up. There like new.
mellbell
· 1 year ago
Dodger: In that case, I'm sure we're only a couple of degrees separated. I took a few classes over there (German, Geo, and Poli Sci), and went to a fair share of plays at Goodhart, plus took up Bi-Co senior year because they badly needed copy-editors.
KurtGodel
· 1 year ago
@mellbell: I loved the BiCo news. My favorite part was the crime blotter -- all those gate arms broken off. Natasha said it was townies.
Trotsky
· 1 year ago
Re: Fidelity: There is no excuse for marital infidelity. The old "male biological imperative" saw is a bunch of crap. It should be known as "The Rapist's Defense". Sorry, cheaters, you suck, and no amount of explaining will ever change that. If your partners think so little of themselves that they are willing to Forgive and Forget, well then you deserve each other, and the mutual misery you bring. Just don't come whining to me. Everyone gets tempted, but only lowlife trash are unable to resist.
JNOV
· 1 year ago
@Trotsky: What about you and Frida? Diego's cheating broker her heart, but I think she really loved Trotsky. And a French woman? A little help? The brain is rusted from da drugs.
Trotsky
· 1 year ago
I rest my case.
mellbell
· 1 year ago
Dodger: My favorite part was all the "suspicious male" sightings at Bryn Mawr. I never could figure out what the threshold was for that on a women's college campus.
flippin
· 1 year ago
I live near Bryn Mawr the street...in Chicago. I know zilch about the educational institution, I just like saying it aloud.
Re: cheating--Just to clarify, my belief that our tendencies to cheat vs. not cheat are part of our biological hard-wiring should in no way imply that I believe all men are incapable of being faithful or have an excuse for infidelity. If you said you would be faithful and then are not, you. are. a. fuckwit.
Trotsky
· 1 year ago
Bryn Mawr. Such a lockjawed, toothy phrase. I always channel Katherine Hepburn when I say it.
JNOV
· 1 year ago
The Philadelphia Story?
KurtGodel
· 1 year ago
@mellbell: I ran your screen name by my daughter, class of '06, but it didn't ring a bell. So to speak. when did you graduate?
JNOV
· 1 year ago
BTW - I lived in Bryn Mawr the town. I've got no connection to the college.
redmanlaw
· 1 year ago
I lived on Bryn Mawr drive in my last year at the University of New Mexico, whose illustrious futbol americano team beat Arizona last weekend.
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But at the end of the day, whatever it takes for you to gerry-rig this hooptie. Is Wordpress punishing us for not clicking on the "Is Sarah Palin the Messiah" adbots on the side?
P.S. I think the avatars automatically linked to gravatar. I didn't do anything on my side to make Nancy P appear.
If you're talking about forgiveness, I've heard it's a great thing to forgive even if the wrongdoer doesn't apologize. Personally, I'm not able to forgive people who don't acknowledge the error of their ways. And it's not good for me. But like I said, it's supposed to work wonders if you are able to forgive those who fucked you over.
If you're asking if you should stay with him, I have no answer. This is your call, your life, your special set of circumstances. Yeah. Life. Yay.
Biology be dammed. Men are not monkeys. I've passed up plenty of tail to be faithful to the Mr., and trust me, about 70 percent of my day is spent lusting after something small, muscular, warm and tight. If I can control my enormous, ape-like libido then other guys can as well.
Forgive when you are able - mostly because it will take a lot of the pressure out of the "getting over it" part for you and thus will hurt a little less- but never, ever forget. I've been in all kinds of relationships, both open, and closed and it's my experience that somebody that will betray the basic agreements of a relationship never really were able constitutionally to adhere to them in the first place.
Never let a scorpion sting you twice. I can't council you as to getting back with this person, if that is even in question,but I can tell you that if you do, you will be betrayed again. Maybe not in a sexual way, but frankly, either a person has honor or does not, and on some level you will get burnt on the fundamentals. People that cheat do so because they are selfish and dishonorable, and at 25 or 35 or 55 if they have not developed the ability to honor their commitments will never do so. This is probably why you may be having trouble understanding the cheating: You honor your commitments, and cannot conceive of something that would keep you from doing that.
@jaime sommers: Forgot for the moment that you are an Astros fan. I could provide you with a nice politician apology, but I am real busy right now and thus cannot string together the requisite amount of weasel-words and thus will simply and humbly apologize for that remark.
(And, yes -- Cubbies / Dodgers would be good. I think we can safely slot them in at this point (they get three against Pittsburgh, three against Sandy Eggo, and six against the Giants, while Arizona has three against the Giants, six against Colorado, and four against St. Louis with 4.5 games to make up), and it would be a Divisional Series -- which the Cubs have been known to inexplicably blow.)
(Also: No D-backs in the playoffs, with the White Sox and Cubs, in all likelihood, in the playoffs? Take that, Geezer.)
Ah, how I love that McCain. And by "Love" I mean "Lust After" and by "McCain" I mean "Hot, Hot B.D. Wong". If I may, please (and by "If I may, please" I mean "Since you don't get a say in it anyway"), I will go back over all the comments I have made on this site when the data base is repaired (by which, of course, I mean that I will make Nojo do it) and explain ("completely redefine") anything that may have made me look stupid or like McCain ("senile").
English is fun, particularly when you get to go back and change the meaning of words to suit your purpose.
Power to the Fundamentals("workers")!
In my defense:
1) I work for a (cough) brokerage firm—though one that hasn’t been directly affected at all by what’s going on, thank the FSM—and we’ve been a little, uh, busy.
2) My boss up and went to South Africa for three weeks leaving me a six-mile-looooonnnngg laundry list of “honey do” chores.
3) I’m re-roofing and painting my house in preparation for Seattle’s upcoming monsoon season.
And
d) I’ve been paralyzed with fear and anger whenever I read the political news about how Grampy Psychogeezer and that horrifying, Caribou-murdering wingnut lady are gonna make sure we’re all nuked over and over and over again until Jayzus comes back forever and ever and most Americans are sucking down that shit sandwich and begging for more.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit horse-tranqulizers. How’ve you been?
No news from the server geeks, although They've Been Notified. Greg and I tried installing a nifty WordPress plug-in that would allow me to Fix the Damn Database Indexes myself (I'm presuming that's where the problem is), but it wouldn't load. (I don't have Deep Geek server access, so I'm analyzing this through gauze.)
It seems the Will of the Room is to switch the comments back to tried and (mostly) true, presuming we can get the functionality restored. So I'll hold off posting Stupid Disqus Tricks for now.
no doubt. my cats are still so traumatized, they have attached themselves to me, literally. i have to wear padding in this heat, with attached animals while i scrape mold.
still waiting for your weigh in on my email poll yesterday re Xmr, asshole.
or we can discuss cheating right here.
prommy once said, "can't a successful guy get a little strange once in a while without jeopardizing a solid long term commitment, like the french?"
and pedo shed light when he added with two men, indiscretions are more understood and forgivable. thoughts?
I don't know about the rest of America, but my first homoseckshul explosion was caused by a Scott Bakula shirtless scene on Quantum Leap..
hehehe...hot Trek Sex. I was more of a Wesley Crusher man myself....
catt, i'm hanging on by my broken finger nails, but someone said, 'it's getting better all the time'. thanks sweetie.
flippen, i sent nojo pics of the animals to die for. hope he posts them
Presuming we do get the old comments working again, any preferences? Disqus has some goodies that WordPress comments don't -- but I don't see a way to link replies like we enjoy. (And I'm amazed that everyone got their avatars up so quickly.)
I like the rating thing, but only because I am a secret fascist. Also the little comment window thingie that pops up when you hold the cursor over someone's screenname.
Otherwise it is slow and poopy.
@SFL: I think we should chip in for the electronic equivalent of duct tape. Reminds me of the days when I drove an avocado green 1979 Chevrolet Caprice: the original Powered by Hope (TM). Hope that I would be able to make it home. 10 mpg, but gas was like .79/gallon or something.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/...
On the other hand, you get those spy tools everyone's been wanting. And I can probably fix the "Recent Comments" list...
So, cast yer votes, folks. Right now this is all we got, but presumably I'll be able to revive the old database sooner or later. Given a choice, which way to go?
Heretics? Gallows!
Infidels? Gallows!
Democrats? Gallows!
Praise, you assholes!
i see your death touch and raise you the salaries of oil execs.
i got rature morons at masada, riding a camel looking for ARK oil, and my re-united critters that will make everyone say, awwwwwww.
(i'll keep the island devastation shots til everyone settles down)
stop your whining, anyone else be washing their hair in the ocean today??
prommy, take a pill. now.
In other news, Talibunny is for smaller government, unless it comes to an Alaskan creamery (and this is coming from the Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal). I leave the floor open for double entendres.
By the way: Geezer, fundamentals, strong. Like wow. Pick -- six for Black Eagle (especially considering the new ad up this morning).
Yah, I second that. Nojo is God, the end, KTHXBYE!
dad just told me people are selling out like the bank scene in 'it's a wonderful life'
love that movie.
oh except for evil Mr. Potter the banker.
In a very small way it does feel good to see the sharks suddenly realize they're chum, too. I won't be screaming this from rooftop to rooftop though because the entire world is going to be taking a bite of this shit sandwich.
Now, I'll stay chained to the state as long as I can to reach the 10-year vestment mark so I'll at least have a few hundred bucks to buy pork & beans when I'm 64. Or 72. Or 80.
Target is now selling Domo-Kuns. Dammit, I was once so hip and ahead of the curve, but now I have been mass-marketed.
They still make Ken-L-Ration?
@Nojo: Disqus is a lot slower. And I may have accidentally "rated" your comment when I was trying to hit reply
@Trotsky Ewalda: Good to see you, sorry about the interviews. Gmail me, seriously.
@Lux: My favorite antiquarian book dealer! Hey you!
I need a hug.
Queries to all:
1) Is this more reason not to vote for him because so many people are now chained to Crackberries?
2) If Barack Obama is being ageist and doesn't honor veterans when he says that the broken-armed Psychogeezer doesn't use email, how does PG invent the Crackberry when the little keys are so much smaller and closer together?
3) is this the Democrats' "Al Gore invented the Internet" retribution moment? Pounce, Dems, pounce!!
Oh, wait, I have to register? Oh for fucksake. Will try this and then do the register thing later.
That's it.
THE COMMENTS FUCKING SUCK!
THE COMMENTS FUCKING SUCK!
THE COMMENTS FUCKING SUCK!
THE COMMENTS FUCKING SUCK!
THE COMMENTS FUCKING SUCK!
THE COMMENTS FUCKING SUCK!
(but I always hated"Nabisco"...thanks a lot Brand W)
just yours suck, just yours.
Fuck you.
Love,
Jamie
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/...
Wheee!
Oh, and as if ripped from the Onion, McCain acknowledges Wall Street crisis, admits he's old.
So were the hamsters let go in the Wall Street blood bath? I thought I saw some members of order rodenta on CNN yesterday wearing sweatshirts with the names of Eastern colleges carrying little boxes of stuff out of their work places.
http://alexanderchee.net/2008/09/13/on-being-el...
Will be back in SF in Feb. of 2009 for the ABAA fair. Passes will be forthcoming.
http://www.seattlebookfair.com/
@IanJ. Posts to you always distract...as my name is Ian Jonas...
hey! i was a bryn mawr mom! (jnov too!)
why didn't we get a sweatshirt!
HUG HUG HUG xoxo!
Awwww, thanks. How are you anyways, sweetheart?
I like the old system better. I am a crotchety conservative in all ways (except politically).
http://www.santafenewmexican.com/SantaFeNorther...
I've heard of "homosexual menace," but a "homosexual explosion?" Is al-Gayda attacking America now?
I'll show you a homosexual explosion....
(sorry, couldn't resist!)
Let me be perfectly clear about the cheating thing: If Mr. 'Catt (and by that I mean me OR my partner) was going to cheat, he had better pack his stuff up and move out first, because if he didn't he would come home to a pile of it in the front yard, burning.
...Sam Jones in Playgirl circa 1981.
In our society it's understood that men are the sexual hunters and women control the sex supply--so when you put two dudes together--there's no one to slam on the brakes. This doesn't apply to everyone, of course, and the key is clear, mutually agreed upon ground-rules if a couple wants to open the relationship. Gay men are in non-traditional relationships anyway, which I'd say makes us more open to considering other arrangements.
Ahhhhh... Flash Gordon...mmmmmmmm...
Yah, totally a WGIWF.
Dudes are always ready for some emotionless orgasming. Chicks have more invested in the possibility of pregnancy, so they are the gate keepers. If chicks had the same sexuality as dudes, then there'd be glory holes in every bar, not just gay bars. There'd be rest stop hetero-jungles, hell, the whole world would be a larry craig stall.
Now am I spouting sexist cliches? I have no idea whats PC anymore, I thought this was all simple evolutionary behaviorism or whatever they call it, the male wants to spread his seed, a win win for him would be to cuckold some other dude and get him to raise his kid. Chicks, on the other hand, don't want their dude running off, so they tend to view this behavior with a less than celebratory attitude.
On the other hand, if a chick has the skills, there's a lot to be said for receiving gifts from a whole harem of men, instead of just one, so chicks have some evolutionary motivation to stray as well.
In the end, fidelity is as often a product of lack of opportunity, and lack of boldness, as it is a product of sheer shimmering virtue. Thats why the law has a formal, recognized evidentiary presumption, that if a chick and a dude have inclination, and opportunity, they will fuck. Period. Its presumed.
Thank God for me I am homely and timid, cause there ain't all that much virtue in the world.
I need a hug too, Tommcatt, And pix of baked's furbabies.
i sent them to tips at cynicsparty. and i'm drinking rum right out of the bottle , how'd ya know?
tell me WHERE to send them!
OA, all makes sense, except one thing.
i don't consider homosexual relationships as 'non traditional'
@ fried,
Please understand that I'm not advocating one partner stepping out without the other's knowledge. But if this does happen, one should evaluate the history with your partner and weigh whether a break-up makes sense emotionally and financially. Long term relationships are complicated, esp when you have so much history with the other person.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/deta...
Kitteh Hugs 4 U!!1!!!
just sent them to nojo at cynicsparty.com
is that it? let me know..........
@OA and Prom: This is the reasoning I've always assumed explains why a male gay relationship was more likely to be open. I've heard before that lesbian relationships are less likely than either male gay or hetero couples to involve on-the-side action, which I'm too lazy to go factcheck at the mo but would reinforce that fact that it's much more a gender thing than an orientation thing. It's funny how this affects women now, at least from my perspective with my girlfriends. It seems like we are much less worried about the gatekeeper role in noncommittal situations and are as likely as most men to enjoy one night stands or fuckbuddies without guilt or hangups. But I think most women I know still want and expect sexual exclusivity to go hand-in-hand with emotional exclusivity, so if you're involved you're faithful.
It's beyond karazee, isn't it?
At this point, McPain could go on TeeVee and blubber that "I soweetoddid," and he'd be a national hero. "He's just like me!" squeal the undecideds.
Who cares that his chief cheerleader sez he and his runningmate aren't qualified to run a company, or are totally incompetent for that matter?
Expect McPain/Failin poll numbers to shoot through the roof in 5... 4... 3... 2...
@nojo, fried: I have to board now but will check for kitteh pix from SLC.
I think the reblog button lets you post your comment on another blog -- like cross posting on different blogs maybe?
It's true. Men are just not wired for monogamy. I think a lot of cultures--like those Hell-bound Europeans--have a different perspective and just expect there to be indiscretions over the years.
going out to forage for food.
y'all better be here when i get back.
It probably also helps that in my first real relationship, I was cheated on within a few months, which left me deeply traumatized for weeks (wandering the streets of Edinburgh, crying-type traumatized), and probably permanently damaged that relationship (and potentially my ability to have a good relationship again, but let's not read too much into it here).
I have come very close to being the third party in a cheating situation, although not because I wanted to be -- in both cases, the other person approached me, and in both cases I felt like crap about it (although no actual intercourse took place). To me, emotional cheating is worse than physical cheating.
I'm really sorry that you went through that betrayal.
To answer your question, some people see sex as integral to an exclusive love/commitment/relationship paradigm, while others see it as simply recreation. I was very much of the love/commitment/relationship mindset until my first serious boyfriend kinda had it off with just about everyone (guys and gals) in our circle of acquaintances in college, which basically forced me to re-examine my feelings on the issue.
Please tell me that these were Wesley Crusher pimp-slapping fantasies.
Well, there was spanking involved....
Accepted, my dear. And in the interests of time, I will spare you my 1000 word essay on the FUBAR that was the decision to play those games in Milwaukee.
MILWAUKEE!!!!!!!!!!!
/deep cleansing breaths
I guess I see physical and emotional cheating as different things, although they're both bad in my book. I agree with the general sentiment that breaking the rules of the relationship is the real problem -- cheating can only be defined within the context of the relationship and its expectations.
BTW I just saw that the feds are bailing out AIG. WTF?
Re: cheating--Just to clarify, my belief that our tendencies to cheat vs. not cheat are part of our biological hard-wiring should in no way imply that I believe all men are incapable of being faithful or have an excuse for infidelity. If you said you would be faithful and then are not, you. are. a. fuckwit.